Which of these do you think Lost has the best chance of winning?
Outstanding Drama Series
Big Love • HBO • Anima Sola Productions and Playtone in association with HBO Entertainment
Breaking Bad • AMC • High Bridge, Gran Via Productions, Sony Pictures Television
Damages • FX Networks • FX Productions and Sony Pictures Television
Dexter • Showtime • Showtime Presents in association with John Goldwyn Productions, The Colleton Company, Clyde Phillips Productions
House • FOX • Universal Media Studios in association with Heel and Toe Films, Shore Z Productions and Bad Hat Harry Productions
Lost • ABC • Grass Skirt Productions and ABC Studios
Mad Men • AMC • Lionsgate Television
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Drama Series
24 • 7:00AM - 8:00AM • FOX • Imagine Television and 20th Century Fox Television in association with Teakwood Lane Productions
Battlestar Galactica • Daybreak (Part 2) • Syfy • R&D TV in association with Universal Cable Productions
Breaking Bad • ABQ • AMC • High Bridge, Gran Via Productions, Sony Pictures Television
Lost • The Incident • ABC • Grass Skirt Productions and ABC Studios
Mad Men • Maidenform • AMC • Lionsgate Television
Outstanding Sound Mixing For A Comedy Or Drama Series (One Hour)
24 • 10:00PM - 11:00PM • FOX • Imagine Television and 20th Century Fox Television in association with Teakwood Lane Productions
Battlestar Galactica • Daybreak (Part 2) • Syfy • R&D TV in association with Universal Cable Productions
Boston Legal • Last Call • ABC • A David E. Kelley Production in association with Twentieth Century Fox Television
House • House Divided • FOX • Universal Media Studios in association with Heel and Toe Films, Shore Z Productions and Bad Hat Harry Productions
Lost • The Incident • ABC • Grass Skirt Productions and ABC Studios
Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series
Boston Legal • ABC • A David E. Kelley Production in association with Twentieth Century Fox Television
William Shatner, as Denny Crane
Boston Legal • ABC • A David E. Kelley Production in association with Twentieth Century Fox Television
Christian Clemenson, as Jerry Espenson
Breaking Bad • AMC • High Bridge, Gran Via Productions, Sony Pictures Television
Aaron Paul, as Jesse Pinkman
Damages • FX Networks • FX Productions and Sony Pictures Television
William Hurt, as Daniel Purcell
Lost • ABC • Grass Skirt Productions and ABC Studios
Michael Emerson, as Ben Linus
Mad Men • AMC • Lionsgate Television
John Slattery, as Roger Sterling
Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series
Lost • The Incident • ABC • Grass Skirt Productions and ABC Studios
Carlton Cuse, Writer
Damon Lindelof, Writer
Mad Men • A Night To Remember • AMC • Lionsgate Television
Robin Veith, Writer
Matthew Weiner, Writer
Mad Men • Six Month Leave • AMC • Lionsgate Television
Andre Jacquemetton, Writer
Maria Jacquemetton, Writer
Matthew Weiner, Writer
Mad Men • The Jet Set • AMC • Lionsgate Television
Matthew Weiner, Writer
Mad Men • Meditations In An Emergency • AMC • Lionsgate Television
Kater Gordon, Writer
Matthew Weiner, Writer
Outstanding Creative Achievement in Interactive Media - Fiction
The 30 Rock Digital Experience • NBC.com
The Dharma Initiative • ABC.com
The Office Digital Experience • NBC.com
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4x Mad Men in the Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series category? Lol?! :D
Oh, how I hope Darlton would win this one.
I never watched Mad Men but it can't be THAT good.
Michael Emerson? He won't win.
Josh Holloway should have been nominated. If not for Best Actor, then Supporting Actor.
Ladies and gentlemen... MICHAEL EMERSON!!!! (and this year they better give that damn Emmy to him!)
I would love to see Michael Emerson win; but his character wasn't that prominent this season. He should have won for Season 4! But for his awesome acting in The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham and The Incident I wish he would win.
Thats dumb how Mad Men has 4 entries in one category. They sould have tried to diversify more and pick each episode from a different series
UFOLite, then you probably shouldn't look at all the categories.. 30 Rock has like 3-4 entries in every second category.
Ditto, I'd say I'm pretty happy about these nominations. LOST must have been soooo hard to follow for a casual audience this season and for the Emmys to award it with a nomination anyway just proves how good it really is. I'm fine if it doesn't win this year, but next year has to be it's time. How poetic would it be if LOST wins Best Drama Series in its first and last seasons.
Everybody says Mad Men is the "best show on TV." I've never watched it, so I won't comment. That being said, it's awesome that Lost was the only show nominated against it in the Writing Category, no?
Boo, what a load of crap. The supporting categories are filled with crap and there's no room for Josh Holloway or Elizabeth Mitchell with THOSE nominations? It's the same crap every year. Michael Emerson is great, but he isn't the only one who deserves recognition for their work on the show. And Mad Men is great, but REALLY? 4 out of the 5 nominations. It's nowhere near THAT good. And I'm almost 100 percent positive that Emerson is going to lose. The Emmy's suck. No Battlestar Galactia, Chuck (you're telling me that these people honestly think that the last season of Entourage deserves a nomination...it was an abomination to the series), or several others.
I don't recall Ben being in "The incident"... the fact that his character wasn't very prominent this season doesn't matter, what's matters is when he's on screen he's amazing!
Guys... and what about William Shatner? He's nominated every year for playin' himself (and I believe he won twice, can u believe that?)
Hopefully, it'll be third time lucky for Michael Emerson and he'll win the emmmy.
I really hope Darlton win the wriring emmy, with their one nomination, against the four Mad Men nominations. Man, that would be funny
I'd like nothing more than to see Lost win the outstanding drama series emmy, but wouldn't mind if they save it for next year. I wouldn't mind if Breaking Bad won it, as it is a brillintly written and acted, entertaining show.
The emmies are a bit of a love in for established actors. If you're a big name you tend to win. I guess that's why Josh never stood a chance of getting nominated :( His performance in the incident was amazing especially the last scene. Definetly better than Emerson and more prominent. Glad Lost got some noms though :)
*Yawn* Predictable... as always.
I always believe that Emerson (and Terry for that matter) are given the meatiest scenes to begin with - the most Emmy worthy stuff, but this year even Emerson fell flat imo, and the only scene where I thought Terry was brilliant was the suicide scene in LADOJB. Too bad he didn't submit. I don't believe Michael will win either, but for the sake of the show I hope he does.
All the others aren't given enough (screen time, dramatic scenes) to work with. I know people think that Josh was given a lot of great material this year, but it just displayed how...average he is as an actor, at least in my view. I know a lot of people thought he was brilliant this year.
I'm happily surprised by the series nom, but everything else was pretty predicable.
Oh, give it a rest Lost fans :) The nominations are good as they are. What exactly were Josh and EM supposed to get nominated for? An overly melodramatic death scene? Theatre students give similar performances everyday in class.
The category is too strong. EM stood no chance because she really is not that good. Much ado about nothing. Josh, possibly but for his work in the early part of the season not in the finale.
I don't know why Emerson is getting another nod.
Best actress is too strong and it seems they have their favourites and those favourites do darn good work season after season, though I would have been extremely pleased to see Evangeline Lilly there not only for her work in 316 and early part of the season but for her super, absolutely super tour de force performance in WHH. Still, Sally Field is bringing it, episode after episode on Brothers and Sisters and Glenn Close is simply excellent in Damages.
Well I believe that you're in the hands of writers, if there's not much for your character what can you do? I remember people complaining 'cause season 4 was "Ben season"... well Jack was on screen more than him so. This year we had "Sawyer season", and even if he's an ok actor you can't give him a nomination only 'cause he was particularly good in the finale, come on. I believe that ME is nominated not only for what he did this season but for the whole arc of his character. And even if he's not your favorite I would be happy anyway, at least a Lost actor had a nomination.
How can I take the Emmy's serious if they nominate one show 4 times in one catagory and nominate William Shatner for acting...
LOL @ the Outstanding Writing nominees. Hope Lost win that category just like how the actress from Weeds beat all of the four ladies from Desperate Houswives few years ago
And Michael Emerson MUST win
Lost was also kind of nominated in this category...but it probably doesn't deserve it.
Outstanding Creative Achievement in Interactive Media - Fiction
The 30 Rock Digital Experience • NBC.com
NBC.com,
The Dharma Initiative • ABC.com
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The Office Digital Experience • NBC.com
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Exactly what I think. Award shows are so boring, I never watch them, anyway.
William Shatner... lol... right.
Not that LOST deserves all the awards, but is that it? Really?
It frustrates me that the Emmy voters pick the same people every year regardless of performance. You'd think after everybody else points this out EVERY YEAR, they would make an effort to change. But they don't. A lot of nominations I violently disagree with. I had some hope for JH and EM, but alas they didn't make it. Boo. I was also pulling heavily for my dearly departed Pushing Daisies.
flexible:
Sorry, but I completely disagree with pretty much all your assertions. I am a theatre student and I think that LOST is one of the best acted shows on television. In my opinion, theatre students aren't capable of delivering those kinds of performances because they are not developed enough as actors yet. It takes a certain amount of experience to sell that kind of material. I think Elizabeth Mitchell has given an incredibly nuanced performance that she can be absolutely proud of. She is subdued most of the time, and yet she can convey so much with one glance. Josh Holloway has also grown as an actor ten-fold since the show started and he also gave his best performance this season. It would have been nice to see them acknolwedged for their work. Oh well.
On the plus side, Darlton has a good chance of winning that writing Emmy. Voters will probably all be divided on which Mad Men episode to vote for, leaving LOST to pick up the win. ....Please?
Michael Emerson deserves to nominated, every time he's on screen he's great. Even when his role is small. In Dead is dead, he was so great. In the Incident he had the badass ending where he's talking to jacob. When he kills Locke it was awesome acting.
Maybe for Michael Emerson third time is the charm.
He wasn't around much this season, but darn good everytime he showed up!
Michael Emerson is the Vincent Price of Lost. Unreal, over the top dramatic/spooky. He's even made fun of it on one of the late night shows - how creepy he plays the role - how he can make everything seem "creepy." I don't know why people equate that to being "good."
Once again, Lost's actors get the shaft. There were so many great performances this season, but Elizabeth Mitchell and Michael Emerson have both deserved an Emmy for a long time.
Really, 4 noms for Mad Men writing...so Lost is the ONLY other drama on TV with quality writing. Ridiculous. I watch Mad Men - its good but not THIS good. And its certainly not better than Lost.
As far as Michael Emerson, his award is so long overdue. Are they kidding with more Boston Legal noms for Outstanding Supporting Actor? And I too am getting tired of every other Lost actor being overlooked.
babyblueyes321 said...
Michael Emerson is the Vincent Price of Lost. Unreal, over the top dramatic/spooky. He's even made fun of it on one of the late night shows - how creepy he plays the role - how he can make everything seem "creepy." I don't know why people equate that to being "good."
I couldn't have said this bit better myself. I am not sold on Emerson as an outstanding actor. He is what those in the movie industry would call "Stage". He is so theatrical its unreal. I do not like that kind of acting where I am so aware that I am watching something. I prefer to get lost(no pun intended) in my programmes.
Veebre_ I guess we'll have to disagree. Difference of opinions. I did not say the acting on Lost is not great. I said the much talked about finale death scene was OTT, very stage and any "good" theatre student can recreate that scene. Infact, they do scenes like that on a regular basis. Just take a stroll to Lamda :)
IMO, Elizabeth Mitchell is limited when it comes to expressions. Ofcourse she can transmit different things with one glance/expression. She has just the one. We are left with the dialogue to tell us exactly what it is she is trying to convey. She had more to do in season 3 and concluded with one expression. It is the same one she had in Gia and she carried forward to season 5. She has the same expression for being devious as she has for being heartbroken/in pain. I am not saying she is horrid but I don't rate her and I am yet to read a serious TV critic who does. I do not include superficial TV mags who are bettter off writing about who is hotter than who.
Josh Holloway has definitely grown as an actor but I saw nothing groundbreaking this season either. I mean really, lets be realistic here. Are we saying that the ability to cry is unique? Every actress knows how to cry. Its how you deliver your lines and the expressions on your face as you cry. You want to see great acting of tragic scenes that deserved an EMMY and got over looked? Watch the Greys Anatomy finale. You will not find a better finale on TV this season. Lost fans can laugh at such shows but the writing was superb this season and the acting as an ensemble has always been brilliant. Even Justin Chambers has improved.
In my book, I rate actors/actresses that would have still been great in the days of Charlie Chaplin. Silent movies. I rate those who with just expressions you could still tell what they were trying to say by just looking at them and in 3 seconds a variety of emotions can cut across their faces. Unless Elizabeth Mitchell speaks, I have no idea merely by looking at her, what emotion she is supposed to be conveying and IMHO, her inflections are all over the place especially in that finale that some of you think was fine work.
Others are entitled to hold a different opinion but love her or hate her, if Heigl, Chandra Wilson(who should get every year) or even Emily Vancamp in brothers and sisters, didn't get a supporting actress nomination this year, it would have been an abomination for Mitchell to be on that list because some fans thought she "died well". That whole scene was over acting. You could see what they were going for a mile off, trying to rip our guts out. I was embarassed for Jack Bender because the original script shows thats not how Darlton wrote it so, I can't blame them. Bender was getting creative with his free license.
I prefer the quiet subtle tragic scenes that make you cry but don't shout at you, "Cry. You are meant to cry here" LOL..but just make you cry and sometimes, you dont even know you are crying until you touch your cheeks and feel your tears.
To Flexible: Great points. I agree with all of those three assessments: Emerson as stagey, Mitchell as limited, and Holloway does not impress.
Emerson and Mitchell have a very similar style, with very little variety: stare intensely with your eyes (Mitchell blinks too much, Emerson almost never blinks), and enunciate every syllable so you sound smart. If you've seen Mitchell's appearance on House, she does everything exactly the same way. At least once per episode, it seems like Holloway is reading his lines off a script for the first time ever, and he says the words quickly rather than put much forethought into how they would sound. None of those three actors does all that much with their face, and their dialogue rarely sounds natural (for different reasons).
On the plus side, Darlton has a good chance of winning that writing Emmy. Voters will probably all be divided on which Mad Men episode to vote for, leaving LOST to pick up the win. ....Please?
Or the voters will be so focused on choosing which Mad Men episode is the best, LOST won't receive any votes at all!
My TV loving friends always tell me how awesome Mad Men is. I don't think that show is the problem. The shows that are problems are the Grey's Anatomys, Two and a Half Mens, Boston Legal, etc. Total crap that keeps getting nominated but almost never wins.
Another problem I have with the Emmys. Michael Emerson is awesome, but I think for the first time, this season was just OK for him. He deserved the nominations in Season 3 and 4 (and should've won last year). But it's not really a surprise that he got nominated again. The Emmys seem to be very lazy. They vote for Emerson because he's now an established Emmy player, but it's not really fair to the other members. I think most shows do the same thing. Even with crap like Grey's Anatomy, I have other friends who love that show and are constantly surprised when Katherine Heigl gets nominated and others don't. Repeat, repeat, repeat....
I'm not surprised that LOST was nominated for Best Drama. Personally, I do not think that the show deserved the nomination. I found Season 5 to be rather mediocre or mixed. But I suspected that the Emmy voters would be blinded by the big explosion at the end of the season finale.
"Oh, how I hope Darlton would win this one.
I never watched Mad Men but it can't be THAT good."
YES, it is.
Great points. I agree with all of those three assessments: Emerson as stagey, Mitchell as limited, and Holloway does not impress.
At least they still gave better performances than the likes of Fox, Garcia or Lilly. Especially Lilly.
What's with the actor bashing? Not cool and completly undeserved. What is your argument exactly trying to accomplish that William Shatner is a better actor than those on Lost? Nahhh.
"You want to see great acting of tragic scenes that deserved an EMMY and got over looked? Watch the Greys Anatomy finale."
Hear that? thats the sound of your credibility flyin out the window...
"You want to see great acting of tragic scenes that deserved an EMMY and got over looked? Watch the Greys Anatomy finale."
Hear that? thats the sound of your credibility flyin out the window...
Yeah, I have never been able to watch that show for more than thirty consecutive seconds.
Before anyone says that any one actor deserves an award over another, they should really acquaint themselves with the competition. I thought Emerson deserved the Emmy last year but since then I saw Željko Ivanek's performance on Damages which was also pretty awesome.
One thing I've noticed is that the cable shows tend to give their actors more material to work with. The performances of people like Michael C. Hall and Bryan Cranston really stand out because the writing is more character focussed. Lost has such a huge cast, and such a pressing story to tell that it doesn't devote nearly enough time to giving their actors good material. Terry O'Quinn and Michael Emerson get the best stuff (which is why they're nominated most often) but others such as Josh Holloway and Elizabeth Mitchell get somewhat short changed.
they are joking about the dharma game right? the company they hired didn't do it's job. They were forced to lie and say the economy did it, which was a bunch of crap. the reason they canceled that thing was because the hardcore lost fans thought it sucked and there was no way they could ever meet the standards that they put into place with the original lost experience. There is a reason they most likely won't have a game this year. Heck the failure of that game made them rewrite some of season 5. How is that emmy worthy. Now the original Javier Grillo-Marxuach arg that was emmy worthy.
Flexible, I assume you're referring to TV critics like the ones who talked about their Emmy wishes in a recent Hollywood Reporter article. Well, Robert Bianco had Mitchell on his Emmy Dream Ballot for her performance in season 3 and Maureen Ryan had her on her Best Drama Actors of 2007 list. There you have it.
I'm sorry for the double post but I forgot the links in my first post and I am sure Flexible won't believe it unless she has seen it with her own 2 eyes:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/best_and_worst_of_2007_tv/index.html
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/televisionawards/emmys/2008-06-12-emmy-ballot_N.htm
Hamburgo-You have given me dream Emmy lists of 2007. Like I said, she had more to do in 2007 and maybe Bianco had never seen her before and thought, this is not bad. I am sure having watched her for 2 years now he must have realised that's about it with Mitchell. IMO, the woman is limited.
Did he have her in his list this year? Which of the Lost actors did either have in their list this year?
Hurleyrules, if appreciating Greys makes me lack credibility in your opinion, I am happy to be seen as such in your eyes. It is an amazing show and was particularly brilliant this year. The best finale 2009, on TV hands down.
I must remind you that you are watching a show(LOST) where the lead characters agreed to blow up the spot and change time because of past and potential heartbreak and that is just one example of not so "great" writing. I don't think you are in any position to be criticising Greys Anatomy. LOL. BTW, your username is Hurleyrules? You hear that? That's the sound of me taking anything you say seriously, going out the window :)
Ladylavinia-We agree to disagree. I am not a fan of Foxy but Holloway is not a better actor than MF and I love me some Josh. They are about the same with one or the other better at somethings more than the other. I have said it before and I will say it again, and all the Juliet fans can say as they please, but Evangeline Lilly is completely different class. Evangeline is a naturally talented actress. What is so visually hardwork for EM to deliver, appears effortless for Lilly. Just the motorpool scene alone with both of them or any of their scenes together is evidence of that simple fact. Darlton call it "eye acting". Evie has it. Even Yunjin has it. EM, err, not so much. JMO. I don't want to start an unnecessary argument so I'm out. Suffice to say, different strokes for different folks.
there is an awful lot of lost cast bashing guys, what up? they cover tons of material and a huge range of emotions and situations. they should have been nominated for ensemble. but, Emmy sucks cause there are actually to many great actors/shows to be replaced with the likes of grey's anatomy or its silly cast. For real??? over The Wire??? good god. please. The Wire is incredible. Yes, so is Mad Men. and Yes, so is Lost. these are genuine and unique pieces of art. grey's anatomy is crap, particularly in comparison. formula crap. as is boston legal. crap. but, emmys are hollywood schlock and nothing serious. nevertheless, i hope lost wins best drama and EM wins too, and Darlton. obviously mad men will win many, so good for them.
The emmy's are a joke, the fact that The Wire has never one one is terrible.
I doubt Lost will win anything, although 4 Mad Men might mean a vote split. Doubtful, but still.
Emerson could win too, but Aaron paul deserves it I think. Breaking Bad is incredible.
Sheesh, people. Back off and let the guy have his own opinion!
Besides, you DO have to admit, that regardless of what you think about Grey' Anatomy, the acting is solid. In fact, it's probably the best part of the whole show.
Evangeline Lilly is a naturally talented actress? Oh dear. I'm sorry, but when I read that I nearly burst into laughter. Granted, she's not a terrible actress. But after five seasons of LOST, I believe that she remains a mediocre one. Honestly. She has had her moments I'll grant you, but even when most of the other cast members are barely phoning it in, they're still more talented than Lilly.
I'm sorry, but . . . yeah, let me stop laughing so I can post this message.
Actors and actresses submit the episode of their own choice for consideration for nomination, they also choose to submit for "Best" or "Supporting". On the cast of Lost the only two actors/actresses who submit for "Best" are Matthew and Evangeline, why? No idea. When Michael Emerson was once sked why he didn't submit for "Best Actor", his response was "I don't want to step on anyones toes". You can read between the lines on that one. Josh could not have been nominated for "Best Actor", he submitted for consideration as "Supporting Actor for LeFleur".
ABC submitted The Incident and another episode (might have been LeFleur) for consideration, this has nothing to do with the episodes submitted by the actors. Michael didn't submit The Incident for his episode.
The rules of The Academy can be found on the emmys.org.
The fact that The Academy has nominated Michael for the 3rd time is an indication that he has emerged from a "work a day actor" to an actor who has gained the respect of many and is being taken seriously, unlike Matthew Fox who continues to submit for Best Actor and continues to be snubbed. Given the enormity of the amount of Supporting Actors who submitted for consideration (see the .pdf document) its huge that Michael has been recognized yet again. He just may win this year. Had I have chosen a Lost actor for this season for Supporting actor, I thought it would have been Josh.
The Supporting Actress submission pool was just too full of incredible actresses to include Elizabeth for one outstanding performance in The Incident. I don't know which episode she submitted for off the top of my head, but there were just pages after pages of supporting actors and actresses who submitted for consideration. The nominations are two actresses from Greys, two from In Treatment, 1 from 24 and 1 from Damages.
I'm going to go with Michael winning the Supporting award this year, there's a reason he's been considered two years in a row especially since this wasn't his strongest season. I think he submitted for either Dead is Dead or TLADOJB.
I see Lost maybe winning 2 at the most from this list, but possible one or even none. House IMHO will likely be the winner of the Best Drama this year, if Lost didn't win for The Constant last year don't see them winning for The Incident this year. Again another episode that you'd have to know the story to be able to follow it.
I find the show Big Love entertaining. The Academy loves this show though highly controversial. However since Bill Paxton wasn't nominated for Best Actor nor any other cast member for any category this time, i'm gonna rule out Big Love. Michael C Hall, as expected has been nominated for Dexter, as has Hugh Laurie for House so neither Dexter nor House should be ruled out. There was no new Dexter this year, but Dexter was still eligible for submission.
The Mad Men thing is out of control. Never watched the show, it must be pretty damn good. How is Lost supposed to win against 4 episodes of Mad Men, and what where's the 6th nomination in this category? There's no other show that had outstanding writing? Further looking at the list, Mad Men has been nominated for a plethera of other awards.
A couple of Lost snubs I thought notable:
Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series (this is where Lost should shine)
Outstanding Director (oops Jack Bender, what happened there).
Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series (I thought Alan Dale would have a shot).
No mention of Michael Giacchino at all for musical score.
I do hope that Matthew and Evangeline will finally take note that they don't fit in the Best Actor and Actress category. They may receive notieriety in other countries, but have yet to receive status in the U.S. Perhaps this will knock Evangeline's attitude down a notch. The nominations in these categories are simply actors and actresses in an entire different class of actors and I dare say know what the word "humble" means.
Wishing Damon, Carlton and Michael good luck...
"The fact that The Academy has nominated Michael for the 3rd time is an indication that he has emerged from a "work a day actor" to an actor who has gained the respect of many and is being taken seriously"
It's just proof that the buzz about the character can overshadow the actual performance from the actor. Yes, Ben's a mysterious and heinous character but ME plays Ben so campy and over the top that it's really a shame. Most all the other actors bring a reality to their characters even though they are in situations that defy reality, while Michael exaggerates every reaction he has to everything, from asking FakeLocke, "Whhaaat plane?" when Flocke tells Ben and Richard that they are headed for the plane to how he responded to seeing his dead daughter under the Temple. "Aaahlex...." He lacks nuance and subtlety in his performance.
It just makes me wonder if the people voting for these Emmy noms actually watch the performances, or rely on that "buzz" that people have about the character and the situations the character gets into when they vote for these noms.
Honestly flexible, I never agree with you. Ever. And you are not very flexible. The reason I love EM is her ability to be so many different people!!! In other works and espectially in real life, you wouldn't even recoginze her!!
So The Incident is nominated for best writing and Elizabeth is snubbed?
I think Elizabeth deserved to be nominated in season 3. Actually in season 3 she should have won the bloody award.
But she also deserved this season, especially compared to the Grey's Anatomy and In Treatment ladies that got nominated. But it seems the Emmy people have no love for her. All those other actresses are well known and have won awards before, so it seeems they have more respect for them.
What these Grey's Anatomy ladies did that she didn't? Or even the lady from Damages. Since when Elizabeth can't act like Ellen Parsons?
Now saying Elizabeth is limited, especially if the only thing you've seen of her was LOST or House. Please. I agree with the person who said Elizabeth can be and can play so many different kind of people.
Maybe if she was given the same excellent writing material as Michael Emerson or Terry O'Quinn, she would be nominated. Maybe if she was in Grey's Anatomy or In Treatment playing the same character as these ladies that were nominated, she would be nominated and even win. Surely.
Good luck to Michael Emerson and LOST.
I believe LOST is only going to win the more technical awards, though.
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Drama Series
Outstanding Sound Mixing For A Comedy Or Drama Series (One Hour)
And maybe this:
Outstanding Creative Achievement in Interactive Media - Fiction
But I want so much that LOST wins as Best Drama. Hope it wins, I just don't believe it will. Not this season.
I mean ROSE BYRNE. Ellen Parsons is the character. lol
I think I might agree with you babyblueeyes about ME this year, but in past years, his performance as Ben has been as subtle and nuanced as I have ever seen. There used to be more mystery surrounding the character, and he played that up SO well. Now that we know more about Ben, maybe it doesn't work so well. I don't know. He's still great great great, but I don't think season 5 was his strongest year.
Lost just won Best Drama. Although many said they won't.
@Icecrash,
These are the nominations. No one won anything yet. Lost has been nominated for Best Drama along with 6 other shows, although the format was supposed to be 6 nominations per category this year so i'm not sure why there are 7 shows listed in this category. Nevertheless, The Emmy's have not been televised yet nor have the winners been announced.
On one hand I am glad that Lost got that many nominations. On the other hand some of those nominations, at least in my opinion, aren't really deserved. Emerson was deservedly nominated last year, but even I as a Ben fanboy have to admit that Emerson didn't have much to do this year. His acting performances were still great, but he didn't dominate the show like in season 4. This year around his appereances tended to be much more subtile.
Also it's funny to see how the people responsible for nominations simply ignore some shows. How else can it be explained, that one of the best shows on TV that ended this year, The Shield, didn't get ANY nominations at all? If you look at the critics opinion most of them had the show in as a contender for Best Drama series, and actors like Michael Chiklis, Walton Goggins and CCH Pounder as sure nominees for Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor and Best Actress respectively. Still the show gets 0 nominations in total. Same with In Treatment, I still don't understand how come that season 2 wasn't nominated for Best Drama. I think the only show that has been rated higher by critics this year was Mad Men, while In Treatment, The Shield and Breaking Bad came in as close seconds. Well, at least Breaking Bad got some of the nominations it deserved...
They will probably give the Emmy to Michael Emerson anyway . . . to make up for not giving it to him, last year.
Perhaps Elizabeth didn't choose the right episode or clip to send in for her consideration. The fact that (once again) Lost has been nominated for The Incident has nothing to do with which actors were nominated and which weren't. The Academy chose to nominate Lost for The Incident, not LeFleur, take note.
Michael, his agent and publicist most likely found just the right piece from his best episode to send in.
It isn't possible for the members of the Academy to watch full episodes from every actor/writer/producer etc. The rules for submission are clear. They have to be smart about what they submit and have limited time to catch the attention of the Academy members.
The Emmys are different than other awards. Normally you'll see people who have theater backgrounds and have been in the business for a awhile. William Shatner is an example. I can't remember a time when Shatner wasn't on TV or the movies. I'm sure there must be some original Trekkies out there, yes that was him.
Huge Laurie is another actor who is always recognized by this Academy. His background is extensive, not just on TV, is greatly admired by his peers, a wonderfully humble man and incredible actor. Michael C Hall also has a theater background before he came on as David Fischer in Six Feet Under, now as Dexter he's become an our favorite serial killer. It's more than just the acting that gets acknolwedged by this Academy, it's the person behind the actor. Who among us can say we don't love Michael Emerson? Even when Ian Cusick won, he didn't just pop onto Lost out of nowhere, he had a theater background as well and very good credits to hisname. When Terry O'Quinn won, Terry had been around for a long time, a quiet unassuming man not a surprise that he was chosen.
Maybe some of the Lost actors need to be careful how they act in the public eye. Michael is a perfect example of a typical Emmy nominated actor. Yes, he has arrived and i'm very happy for him knowing how long and hard he worked to find this role of a lifetime (his words). A nicer person it couldn't have happened to.
The Academy of Arts & Sciences look upon themselves as the "elite" of the awards shows, much more serious than say The Golden Globes or Peoples Choice Awards. In all honesty I never cared much for the Emmys before Lost, i'd tune into the broadcast show here and there to see if any of my favorite actors had won, half the time I didn't know the winners (e.g. if I didn't know last years winner for supporting actor had been Juliets ex husband on Lost, I would have had no idea who he was).
Even when Ian Cusick won, he didn't just pop onto Lost out of nowhere, he had a theater background as well and very good credits to his name.
Henry Ian Cusick never won an Emmy.
Hamburgo-You have given me dream Emmy lists of 2007. Like I said, she had more to do in 2007 and maybe Bianco had never seen her before and thought, this is not bad. I am sure having watched her for 2 years now he must have realised that's about it with Mitchell. IMO, the woman is limited.
I said those lists are from 2007. It's no wonder that she wasn't on their lists this year considering that she hasn't had any Emmy worthy material (aside from the season finale) in recent years. The character hasn't even had a proper centric episode since OOU more than 2 years ago.
Darlton call it "eye acting". Evie has it. Even Yunjin has it. EM, err, not so much. JMO. I don't want to start an unnecessary argument so I'm out.
Now that's funny considering that Damon thinks EM is one of the best eye actresses in Hollywood.
Michael, your info is outdated. Lead and supporting actors did not submit any episodes prior to the announcement of the nominations this year. Only nominated actors get to submit a tape from now on. The deadline for that is Tuesday.
Now, that is really funny Hamburgo. Do you have a link? I have never heard that. I would be curious to read when and where Damon said that. It won't make me lose my respect in his judgment but I would raise a brow.
What was Emmy worthy about the season finale? LOL. Truly. What material did they give EM in the finale that was Emmy worthy? The fact she died? Thats why she didn't get a nomination because that is cliche and passe. Any decent actress worth her salt can die like she died. There was absolutely nothing Emmy worthy there. "I love you. I love you so much." Then she drops. I mean really?! Or is it when she was breaking up with Sawyer? Or in the sub? Or is it her (very poor IMO) acting while sawyer was being beaten when they were captured? Which one? What part exactly was so challenging for any actress and required versatility, that you think Elizabeth Mitchell should have been included in that Emmy list? A better actress would have brought that cliche to look not like a cliche. EM acted it as the cliche it is and gave a cliched delivery/performance. The Emmy voters are not always right but they were spot on to exclude her. Also spot on to exclude Bender for the soap opera that parts of the finale was. What was there to direct?!
Plus its not just about EM. I am glad Darlton are shocked they got nominated this season. Best drama? Season 5 of Lost? You are kidding me! The incident has got to be the most disappointing finale particularly because of the hype it got before it aired.
Now, that is really funny Hamburgo. Do you have a link? I have never heard that. I would be curious to read when and where Damon said that. It won't make me lose my respect in his judgment but I would raise a brow.
He said it on the ATOTC audio commentary.
Hamburgo1001 is correct.
My 2 cents:
LOST has some great actors. Matthew Shepard is great seasons 1, 2, and 3. He got robbed of a nomination season 3 especially. i agree with the point that if they don't give you material to work with, you won't shine, and I think that's the case with Jack these last 2 seasons. Still, great actor.
Elizabeth Mitchell does a great job of expressing angst and rage as she did season 3 (throwing Ben's cup of water to the floor) but I agree with FLEXIBLE that her expressions are limited. It's always the same still face for so many emotions. So true that w/out the dialogue it can be confusing. Her death scene was awesome, the final scene I could feel her pan, and in Lafleur after delivering baby Ethan she did great and then her house scene with Sawyer. BUT, that's not enough as you rank her against the competition. She's good, and maybe was robbed season 3, but it just wasn't enough this season and the material she was given DOES NOT play to her strengths.
Speaking of, Yunkin Kim. Poor actress was robbed, not by the emmys, but the writers. She is far and away the most talented female actress on the show. She was robbed season 4 for "Ji Yeon". The scene Juliet gives her secret away, pleading with Jin, delivering the baby, and then breaking our hearts at Jin's grave. Simply BRILLIANT. Season 3 she did great in "DOC". This season, she did well with was given but they gave that poor woman nothing to work with and she became a one note character the 2nd half of the season. "If wee see Jacob, can he help us find my husband". to Locke: "Do you know where to look for Jin" and so on.
Evangeline Lilly is not a natural actress to whoever wrote that, sorry. She is good, not great. Considering the competition, not a chance. And LOST DOES give her so much to work with each season and it comes off convincing and good but not spectacular.
RADZINKSY: Why do Terry and ME get the best material each season? Because they are GREAT actors and you play to your strengths. Give the best actors great stuff because you'll know they will shine. Pure and simple.
Naveen Andrews had little to work with this season, like season's 2 and 3. He's a great actor.
Josh Holloway was great this season and I was rooting for him but I do understand why he was not nominated. Simply not good enough against the pack
Dark horse Jeremy Daives was rumored to be nominated but I feel like EM, he's great in his strengths but limited in terms of versatility.
Daniel Dae Kim, like his Yunjin, is a great actor who never gets enough to work with. He is overlooked, pure and simple. A shame
Miles as an actor is quite frankly a joke. His episode was nice and he is comical in the sarcastic way but his attempt of being somewhat dramatic didn't come through as realistic.
Desmond is great, robbed last season and nothing to work with this season. Hurley is good at what he does but no shot at an emmy.
To recap: if up to me, I'd nominate, based solely on this season, ME and Terry O'Quinn (who didn't submit) and that's it. But in past seasons I feel Desmond, Sun, Jack, and Juliet may have been robbed.
Luhks said...
Even when Ian Cusick won, he didn't just pop onto Lost out of nowhere, he had a theater background as well and very good credits to his name.
Henry Ian Cusick never won an Emmy.
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Luhks,
Thank you, my mistake. I thought he won that Emmy in 2006 for Guest Star. Thank you for the correction.
@Hamburg,
I downloaded the .pdf document when the actors/actresses etc originally submitted their names for consideration, that was quite some time ago. It's a very long document, i'm sorry but that is the way it went.
The difference this year is that there wasn't a semi finalist group picked as in past years. They went right to a finals group of 6 per category (though Best Drama has 7 and the writers group has 5). There was a change in format this year from a semi finalists lists straight to a finalist list.
I believe the original .pdf doc is still available on the emmys.org site for viewing of the original submissions.
As you can see above, I will admit when i'm wrong. I read original excrutiating long list several times when it was first released. There was quite a bit of discussion at the time that Terry O'Quinn's name was missing from the submission list you may remember. The thought at the time was he kept his name off to give his friends Michael (and Josh) a better chance.
Cheers.
The difference this year is that there wasn't a semi finalist group picked as in past years. They went right to a finals group of 6 per category (though Best Drama has 7 and the writers group has 5). There was a change in format this year from a semi finalists lists straight to a finalist list.
But that's it. Because of the loss of the blue rippon panel no tapes were officially chosen or seen before nominations were announced this year (exception were the guest actor categories) but like always shows, actors, networks and production companies were free to send DVD screeners to the academy beforehand. But the problem with that is that most voters are too lazy to take a look at those anyway.
David,
I think MF is a good actor. He was very good in seasons 3 and 4. If I had to rate him, I would say "not bad". Every great actor, regardless of material, ought to be able to shine. MF does not do that enough for me.
I disagree with you that EM was good in the death scene. I thought she was OTT. I don't quite remember the Ethan delivery scene but I suspect it was normal because can't think of it standing out. What did stand out from her this season was attacking Jack in the shower.
I do not think that the Writers should be restricted to giving Actors, storylines that play to their strengths. If the actor is limited, too bad. The story should not suffer because of the actors limitations.
YunJin Kim is a very good actress but I wouldn't call her the more talented one. I think she has been given quite a lot to work with during this show and she has done it well. Her scenes with Evie are always a thrill for me to watch. Few and far between as they are.
For me, there are certain things in acting you can't teach and this is why I prefer Evangeline to all of them. It's easy to attend all the schools and come out a "taught" actor but I prefer the naturals. WE disagree on this and that's cool :) I think she is a wonderful naturally talented actress and beautiful to watch. I think they have given her a lot to do over the seasons but I do believe as WHH showed that all we have been seeing was just a tip of the iceberg. Funny enough my favourite scenes in WHH had nothing to do with the leaving Aaron that everyone raves about. I love the variety of emotions that cross her face in all her chats to Cassidy. I love when she is talking to Claires mother.
In season 5 she had little to do but as I said above, even with that little, she stood out. The scene with all of them deciding on how to leave DI after the jig was up. Evangelines face from when she was asked to come to the beach, to when Juliet gave her the code is simply fantastic. I don't have to see the script. I can almost write what Darlton wrote there as Kate's emotions or dialogue assuming they needed dialogue. Actresses like that make it easy for writers because then you don't ruin your script with too much verbiage and spoon feed the audience. The actor/actress does all the work.
This season when she is telling Sawyer what Cassidy said. Her body posture alone reveals a certain discomfort. You don't even have to see her face or hear her speak to know that she is about to say something she is nervous about. I love those little things in actresses, which is why I like the Naomi Watts and Julianne Moores of the world. All the other methodical stuff is good, but give me an untrained natural actress who just acts as she would, would these same things be happening to her, and I would take that any day over the posh acting achool graduate.
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TOQ is a great actor. ME is a stage actor as is Naveen. For me, the difference is clear. The stage actors over do everything. They forget they do not need to project so much on film. Every body movement is exaggerated. Every word over emphasised. This is why I am not so enamoured with ME or Naveen.
William Hurt in Damages this season, now, that was acting at its finest. Kevin Mckidd in Greys(and I dont even like Kevin Mckidd) but his performance there was fantastic.
I thought there was nothing Josh Holloway did this season that he did not do in both seasons 3 and 4 If he wasn't nominated then, I see no reason for the noise this season. Compassionate, romantic, heroic, all that happened in season 3 and 4 and just because the man was often shirtless, no one raved about him and just relegated him to eye candy. Now he wears a vest and people are seeing him. It says more about those people as an audience than it does about Holloway. Don't hate the man because he is gorgeous. I love Josh to pieces but I was not surprised he wasn't nominated. The cage scenes in season 3(I am not including the sex :) the interaction b/w Kate and Sawyer as acted by Josh and Evie was just amazing but most people could only remember the sex but even there, holloway shoed he is not just a good body.
JD is okay but he was just a rambling scientist in the thing so I am not sure what one is to judge from that.
Daniel Dae Kim, is okay. I don't think lack of material is his problem. He is a good actor.
I wouldn't call the actor that plays Miles a joke. I think he is average. He is okay. He is not a complete disaster like that Dushku woman on Dollhouse or whatever her show is called.
HIC, for me is also a bit stagey but personally, I haven't seen anything he has done in the series that I consider outstanding.
I think, even if it's a line or a scene, any great actor is able to show his/her chops and so I will not put total blame on what they are given to work with.
For most of this season Yunjin and Evie barely had anything to do. For me their subtle acting stood out even more than anything EM did. I thought Yunjin was great, finally becoming devious and a bit of an action woman instead of the usual Sun. I thought, early in the season they were both great portraying the tortured mothers for different reasons and when they all got back to the island, Kate did not need to say a word. Her scenes with Bens father while Juliet was treating Ben were very good as were her scenes with Juliet. Motorpool-EM has one expression The smirk, a slight variation with a smile every other second. Her posture, she could have been having a chat about flavour of icecream or God knows what. Evie, goes from akward,to uncomfortable, to nervous, to resigned. Her posture, is almost self preservative. Folded arms, or hands in pocket. Two totally different acting styles. I guess it depends on which you prefer.
My uncle is an acting tutor and he says I would throw Juliette Binoche out of my class or Barbara Hershey and a few others. He says the same about Evie. It's not that he thinks they are the best actresses in the world or they are perfect. Its that he thinks he has nothing to teach them. To teach these types would be to ruin their natural gifts. They are what they are. OTOH(maybe my uncle is a limited tutor:)
Hamburgo-What is the point exactly? The fact of the matter is that whether it is at semi final stage or pre-semis, tapes were sent in at some point. People did not just drop names and the Emmy voters picked the 5 names they could recognise the most. So, I am not sure what point you are trying to make or the difference you are trying to project, but at some point, tapes were sent in. Maybe some group watched the tapes, picked the best 10, and another group picked the best 5 out of the ten, who knows?!... but the suggestion that no tapes were sent in at all and this was just done on some kind of poll, I believe is inaccurate.