Update: This is now confirmed. 16 Episode Episodes. Prem and Finale 2 hrs each making a total of 18 hours.
Thanks to Sluky for this heads up on the translation of this Matthew Fox article in which he claims there will be 16 Episodes in Season 6 but that the Premiere and Finale will both be 2 Hrs long.
I've contacted my ABC contact to see if we can confirm this.
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Lost Season 6 will be 16 Episodes but have 2 hour long Premiere and Finale
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So a total of 18 "hours"?
I do not quite understand why Matthew Fox would know all of this kind of stuff. =/
Because he is very close friends with Damon and they talk a lot about Lost and he tells Foxy stuff?
So I take it that means 18 hours. Lovely, and I love double premieres, great stuff.
I have thought for a while that they would renege on the 17 hours think for season 6. And, honestly? I think the finale may end up being 3 hours for a total of 19 hours too.
It is weird, I thought Darlton and ABC had agreed to give us 17 hours. Maybe the first hour will just be the recap of the previous seasons. However, 18 hours would be awesome! :)
I like to know that we're going to have more of LOST but I'd like a 23 episodes season as we had in the seasons 1 to 3 :) a bonus of Lost's hours is good to me.
I would much prefer a one hour premiere and a three hour finale, but that might just be the fanboy in me talking. I don't know why they'd even bother with a catch-up clip special on the night of the series finale (as is doubtless planned).
Awesome =D can't wait!
So it's gonna be an 18-Hours Season, just like the article about Jack Bender said few days ago.
The more hours the better.
While I actually liked the pace in season 4, season 5 felt totally cut short and rushed, because they put so much stuff in it. I'm for having one last 23 episode season, that should give them enough time to address everything.
I knew this would happen! I'm still hopiing for a 22 episodes season, let's pray!
Good to know they're giving us extra LOST hours. Looks like one of my wish had come true!
18 hours?! Awesome! I really hope this is true. That will give the writers an extra episode to answer the nagging questions.
if you guys remember correctly last season meant that a "2 hour season premiere" meant that they showed episode 1 and 2 while a 2 hour finale was 2 actual episodes, "the incident part 1" and "the incident part 2".
It will probably still be 17 hours...they will just show episode a and 2 for the premiere....
I think they do the double premiere to gain a lot of fans. Probably those who left.
Since they've planned a double premiere this year than it means that it will not be two different episodes aired in one evening (like they did last year with the premiere and episode 2)
So they will go for a storyline that is two hours long. Excellent.
I think ABC will promote A LOT this hiatus for the last season.
In an interview given during his visit in Budapest, he mentioned shooting 18 hours of material this year, so the 2-hour premiere is probably not just the first two episodes put together, like last year, but an actual double premiere.
I'm getting a little frustrated reading some of this comments. There are currently 103 EPISODES OF LOST.
25 IN SEASON ONE (The Pilot was 2 Episodes, and Exodus was 3)
24 IN SEASON TWO (Live Together, Die Alone was 2)
23 IN SEASON THREE (Through the Looking Glass was 2)
14 IN SEASON FOUR (There's No Place Like Home is 3)
17 IN SEASON FIVE (The Incident is 2)
Hours and episodes are the same thing.
This article says Season 6 will be 16 episodes. That is one short.
That means episodes 1 and 2 in the premiere and episodes 15 and 16 for the Finale, with 12 episodes in between.
kla said...
In an interview given during his visit in Budapest, he mentioned shooting 18 hours of material this year, so the 2-hour premiere is probably not just the first two episodes put together, like last year, but an actual double premiere.
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I agree with this.
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chriscelestin said...
I'm getting a little frustrated reading some of this comments. There are currently 103 EPISODES OF LOST.
25 IN SEASON ONE (The Pilot was 2 Episodes, and Exodus was 3)
24 IN SEASON TWO (Live Together, Die Alone was 2)
23 IN SEASON THREE (Through the Looking Glass was 2)
14 IN SEASON FOUR (There's No Place Like Home is 3)
17 IN SEASON FIVE (The Incident is 2)
Hours and episodes are the same thing.
This article says Season 6 will be 16 episodes. That is one short.
That means episodes 1 and 2 in the premiere and episodes 15 and 16 for the Finale, with 12 episodes in between.
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I'm sorry man, but you're TOTALLY wrong.
Considering where they left us at the end of S5, I don't see how they can get the next season started with less than two hours to do it in! So I'm all in favor of a two-hour premiere. And a two-hour finale is a MUST, since they'll be wrapping up the series. Now the question is how many hours will we have in between. I'm going with Jack Bender's 18 hours and hoping for a 16 week run.
@Kla
I would like for you to prove to me how am wrong, rather than just saying it.
I would actually love for you to prove me wrong.
The Variable is episode and hour 100, tell me how else we could have gotten there.
There are no such things as double episodes in LOST. All the finales except Exodus and There's No Place Like Home are 2 episodes, E and TNPLH are 3. Plain and simple.
Kla, if I'm wrong break it down and prove it to me, please.
@Kla sorry, I meant LucAltaiR
@LucAltaiR
Great news, but I still want a three hour series finale. It would be epic.
Hopefully this will mean we won't get any breaks during the season if they have a few more episodes to run. They ruined the idea of a straight run in with the idea of doing only 16 hours. They were never going to fit them in from Jan/Feb to May.
Im hoping the premier is more of a central 2 hour story. Unstead of just seperate episodes put together.
I actually dreamt of 20 episodes for season 6 one night,but this is great too.More hours means more answers,means more Claire(i'm in love with her),means more LOST!!!
He said he was going to shoot 18 hours. But that doesn't mean there's going to be 18 hours of LOST on TV. Don't forget the stuff they cut away (like deleted scenes).
chriscelestin said...
@Kla
I would like for you to prove to me how am wrong, rather than just saying it.
I would actually love for you to prove me wrong.
The Variable is episode and hour 100, tell me how else we could have gotten there.
There are no such things as double episodes in LOST. All the finales except Exodus and There's No Place Like Home are 2 episodes, E and TNPLH are 3. Plain and simple.
Kla, if I'm wrong break it down and prove it to me, please.
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Because BOTH Jack Bender and Matthew Fox talk about a "18-Hours Long Season"
When they say 16 Episodes they're referring to 16 Weeks with a new episode of Lost.
So 16 Episodes with double Premiere and double Finale, means 18-Hours of Show.
Please be true.
Like someone already mentioned, I'd prefer a 3-hour finale event, but a 2 hour premiere is a good runner-up.
@Animagladius
When is said that there will be 18 hours means that there will be 18 episodes of 42 minutes. Deleted scenes are not included.
@LucAltaiR, chriscelestin is not tottaly wrong as you said above. We did have:
25 hours in S1
24 hours in S2
23 hours in S3
14 hours in S4
17 hours in S5
He is only wrong about S6. (chriscelestin said: That means episodes 1 and 2 in the premiere and episodes 15 and 16 for the Finale, with 12 episodes in between.)
The sixth season will do have 18 hours, but it's not probable that they're gonna have the 6.01 as two-hour long, and yes 6.01 and 6.02 shown together. And just because the finale 6.17 and 6.18 are going to be broadcasted in the same day does not mean that they're the same episode, because they're broadcasted in others places in the world in different days and/or splited in two on the DVD.
@LucAltaiR
You said...
Because BOTH Jack Bender and Matthew Fox talk about a "18-Hours Long Season"
When they say 16 Episodes they're referring to 16 Weeks with a new episode of Lost.
So 16 Episodes with double Premiere and double Finale, means 18-Hours of Show.
If there are 18 hours that's the same as 18 episodes including the 2 hour premiere and 2 hour finale.
If they said 18 hours plus a 2 hour premiere and finale than that is 4 addition episodes/hours. Which is a total of of a 22 hour/episode season.
All the finales are 2 or 3 episodes. They are 2 or 3 part episodes are just an extra long story. For example TNPLH is a three part finale, Episodes 12, 13, and 14. Through the looking glass is episode 22 and 23.
If we get a 2 part premiere rather than just two episodes shown back to back, it will still count as episodes 1 and 2 of season 6.
Do you understand this?
@a.new.way
I understand what you are saying. Some people are saying we are getting 18 episodes/hour others are saying 16, regardless how how many we get, if we get a 2 part season premiere it will be episodes 1 and 2 and how many parts the finale will be, it will be comprised of that many episodes. The ratio of hours (42 minutes) to episodes is 1:1.
This is my understanding, but until ABC confirm/deny, this is still open for debate.
Episode 6.01 - 2 Hrs (Premiere)
Episode 6.02 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.03 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.04 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.05 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.06 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.07 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.08 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.09 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.10 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.11 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.12 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.13 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.14 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.15 - 1 Hr
Episode 6.16 - 2 Hrs (Series Finale)
@DarkUFO, I am not against that, I would love it to be like that But the ratio so far has been 1 hour: 1 episode. That just means 18 episodes and hours.
Dark if your right, I'll eat humble pie, if not, I'll tweet you and brag, lol.
It seems kind of random for ABC to add on another episode. My guess is that the season will be seventeen hours, as we have thought since the end of season 4. I hope that we do not get a two-hour season premiere, as I would like to prolong my Lost experience to some extent.
The truth is, none of you knows what you are talking about because the term "episode" is ambiguous. So stop trying to act like you magically know more than other people.
My understanding is that there were to be 17 more HOURS of LOST in season 6. Now, saying 16 "episodes" is completely confusing, because it could either mean a) two two-hour episodes (parts 1 & 2) with 14 episodes in between for a total of 18 HOURS, or b) two nights of two hours each wherein each HOUR is considered an EPISODE, then twelve episodes in between for a total of 16 hours.
The question is, has ABC considered past multi-part episodes just "one" episode? I don't think they do. I think each hour is considered an episode because that's how they're split up on the DVDs and in re-broadcast. In other words, "The Incident, Part 1" and "The Incident, Part 2" are TWO episodes, not one. Otherwise, they would just call it "The Incident."
That's my take on it but I'm fully acknowledging that I could be wrong. TPTB should really clarify this at Comic Con.
@"Rodimus" Ben Lundy
Just do the math, if The Variable is the 100th episode and hour of LOST, the the way I described make perfect sense. One hour (42 minutes or so) = One episode plan and simple, give me an example when something different has happened?
@ chriscelestin
If there are 18 hours that's the same as 18 episodes including the 2 hour premiere and 2 hour finale.
If they said 18 hours plus a 2 hour premiere and finale than that is 4 addition episodes/hours. Which is a total of of a 22 hour/episode season.
All the finales are 2 or 3 episodes. They are 2 or 3 part episodes are just an extra long story. For example TNPLH is a three part finale, Episodes 12, 13, and 14. Through the looking glass is episode 22 and 23.
If we get a 2 part premiere rather than just two episodes shown back to back, it will still count as episodes 1 and 2 of season 6.
Do you understand this?
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I didn't mention before that I agree with your definition of Episode, but still you don't understand it was Matthew Fox that says: "18 Hours and 16 Episodes", not me.
The one who is wrong here is Matthew Fox, because he would have said "18 Episodes" instead of "16 Episodes with Double Premiere and Double Finale".
But the only one here who didn't get his words in the right way, that's you.
@LucAltaiR
I must have missed that part. I'm not saying that Matthew is uncreditable, but he doesn't write or produce the show. If they do it the way Mat said, it will be a first. lol, btw, we just need something to talk about until they come back. I am board for more episodes/hours what ever anyone wants to call it, I just want more LOST, and anyways I get more, I am happy.
chriscelestin said...
@LucAltaiR
I must have missed that part. I'm not saying that Matthew is uncreditable, but he doesn't write or produce the show. If they do it the way Mat said, it will be a first. lol, btw, we just need something to talk about until they come back. I am board for more episodes/hours what ever anyone wants to call it, I just want more LOST, and anyways I get more, I am happy.
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I simply think that Matthew Fox has a different definition of "Episode".
BTW the part about the "18-Hours Long Season" should be pretty clear about how much episodes the next season is gonna have.
All that Matthew Fox said is that there will be 16 "episodes" or "weeks" of Lost, but that two of those "episodes" or "weeks" will be 2 hours instead of one hour. He as well as Jack Bender have stated there will be 18 hours of Lost to be shot in season 6. 18 hours of programming to be aired over 16 weeks/episodes. I don't get why it's confusing. Did you really want him to get specific and say, "but those premiere and finale episodes will of course be individual episodes produced as part 1 and part 2 or each hour might even have it's own title"? Did he really need to be that literal or does common sense tell you that's pretty much a given and that he didn't need to spell it out for us?
So hooray, if he and Jack Bender are right we will get an extra hour next season.
All this talk of episodes being the same as hours. Damon and Carlton constantly refer to Tabula Rasa (S1 E03) as episode 1. They consider the Pilot as one episode, episode 0 (hence the production code 100). The 100th episode thing was just a marketing ploy by ABC, they took advantage of promoting 5x14 as ep 100 instead of an episode at the start of (the already highly anticipated) season 6. I do consider the Pilot as two episodes though, but finales are one.
I think a two hour season premiere might count as two episodes so it might still be just 17 hours.
katieb20022001 said...
All that Matthew Fox said is that there will be 16 "episodes" or "weeks" of Lost, but that two of those "episodes" or "weeks" will be 2 hours instead of one hour. He as well as Jack Bender have stated there will be 18 hours of Lost to be shot in season 6. 18 hours of programming to be aired over 16 weeks/episodes. I don't get why it's confusing. Did you really want him to get specific and say, "but those premiere and finale episodes will of course be individual episodes produced as part 1 and part 2 or each hour might even have it's own title"? Did he really need to be that literal or does common sense tell you that's pretty much a given and that he didn't need to spell it out for us?
So hooray, if he and Jack Bender are right we will get an extra hour next season.
I completely agree with you, katie. :)
I'm thinking that still means 17 hours. I mean, I believe ABC marketed the season premiere for Season 5 as 2 hours, but in reality it's 2 episodes. I think we'll be in the exact same situation as Season 5.
But Matthew Fox has explicitly stated, like I've said eariler, they were going to SHOOT 18 hours in the last season, and because of this, they are going to finish shooting a bit later than usual. I think that it's futile to argue about the definition of an episode, the important part is that Season 6 is going to be 42 minutes longer.
The interview is here BTW. (in Hungarian, like the source of this post, but a bit clearer than that.)
http://comment.blog.hu/2009/06/16/matthew_foxnak_elege_van_a_tevebol
Golden said... I have thought for a while that they would renege on the 17 hours think for season 6. And, honestly? I think the finale may end up being 3 hours for a total of 19 hours too. Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:56:00 AM
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Yeah, you never know. They could get to writing it and go 'Uh oh, we have way too much we need to cram into here... let's make it 3 or 4 or 5 hours long to milk it as much as we can' :)
But hey, an extra hour is great either way.
More hours = more answers.
Or so I hope...
sheesh, thanks Dark, yes that would have been my take on it as well the way I read it. We do have a tendency to read alot into things don't we? People, let us not start on the "no breaks straight through" thing. U.S. tv doesn't work that way. I would bet that there is no way the season will run straight through with no breaks, let us not forget that above everything else ABC will make sure to get this into May sweeps and do whatever it takes to get there. Don't count on "no breaks", no U.S. tv show runs straight through with no breaks, it just doesn't happen like that. Giving you a heads up now, don't be disappointed.
yeah, more hours are always great! Makes hope for more answers!
I want a 6 hour series finale!! ;-)
Yay! An extra hour of groups of people trekking through the jungle! ;-)
I'm totally stoked for this extra hour and holding out hope that maybe the Series finale will be extended by another hour giving us a total of 19 hours in Season 6. That would be sweet.
On the point of straight through I think it may actually be possible this year. If ABC brings LOST back on Feb 3rd and runs straight for 16 weeks the Series will end on May 19th which is well into May sweeps. That would put us at 231 days until the premier. Or they could even push it back to Feb 10th and end May 26th. Either way I really want a straight run with no breaks.
"The question is, has ABC considered past multi-part episodes just "one" episode? I don't think they do. I think each hour is considered an episode because that's how they're split up on the DVDs and in re-broadcast. In other words, "The Incident, Part 1" and "The Incident, Part 2" are TWO episodes, not one. Otherwise, they would just call it "The Incident.""
Yeah, and I actually don't like this at all--I want to watch the finale straight through on DVD, and I suspect the only reason they've broken it up so is because of syndication rights.
It will be: 16 weeks, 18 hours, 18 episodes.
Period.
@Bo, where are you getting the start date of February 3rd or anytime in February? Pretty sure its been announced for January already. Perhaps Dark can confirm.
"camyla said...
It will be: 16 weeks, 18 hours, 18 episodes.
Period."
It's not period until it's confirmed. Unless of course your the god of all truths.
I agree with chriscelestin.
Maybe they will do things differently this time around, but in the past 5 seasons, every time they've shown a premier or finale longer than one hour, it's been multiple episodes back to back. As he said, a 1:1 ratio.
Imo the more LOST, the better and maybe they will do things differently this season. But there hasn't been a 2 hour long episode of LOST yet during the whole series, only back to back episodes.
@ Michael
Sorry I haven't responded sooner. I'm just guessing at the Feb 3rd start. No official start date has been given that I know of yet and Feb 3rd seems to work the best and leaves us with no split ups as it takes us deep into May Sweeps. So thats the date I'm expecting given 2 facts. Its back on Wednesdays and set to run straight through. Otherwise it may start back up in January and then they will probably give us at least a one week break somewhere in the Season.
So Feb 3rd is just my best guess.
Katie FTW! thank you for your post Katie, i dont understand why it's so hard for some of the people here to understand this.. how is this confusing.. AT ALL?!?
16 weeks, 18 episodes.
Week 01 will be the 2 hour season premiere.
Week 16 will be the 2 hour series finale.
Pretty self explanatory. As others here have mentioned. It's not rocket science.
Exact same thing as the fifth season, except the first two episode are going to have the same name.
It's not 16 episodes, it's 18 episodes. The premiere and finale, being two hours, is technically two episodes each for a total of 18 episodes on 16 nights.