Introduction
Here we go folks! The main event has begun. Welcome to the first annual DarkUFO Lost Fantasy League. Season 4 has begun and it's starting to look like we may be getting more than just the eight episodes that were finished before the writers strike commenced.
We were treated to a doozy of an episode in "The Beginning of the End" and I'm sure that is just the tip of the iceberg compared to what Damon and Carlton have in store for us. Every Monday evening (US Eastern time) check in here to see the latest Fantasy Update, hosted by me, G-Man.
Please keep in mind that the LFL is a "No Spoiler Zone." We ask that you refrain from referring to or outright leaking any spoilers or spoilerish information in the comments section out of respect for those of us who have remained either mostly or entirely spoiler-free during the Hiatus.
Check out the video on your left for a semi-brief overview of this week's highlights. Read through the sections below to get a more in-depth understanding of how the scores came out the way they did and be sure to check on where your team stands in the Statistics and Tables section. If you have any questions, either ask them in the comments section or email them to LFLquestions@gmail.com.
“The Beginning of the End” (in 500 words or less)
What a way to get the ball rolling! Season 4 kicks things off in high gear.
Help is on the way, Ben continues to dispense warnings, and Naomi has apparently pulled a Season 7 lumbering off into the jungle. Jack is so smug and content with himself for making the call that will lead to their rescue that he brushes off Kate’s superior female intuition about the possibility that Naomi left two blood trails. That’s right, silly Kate! Why don’t you just sit there, caught in the dreaded love triangle and not show any character growth, while a man tells you what to do? Seriously, when has Jack ever been wrong about anything?
In an act of well-deserved revenge, Kate swipes the satellite phone from Jack while pretending to show affection. Ben notices and gives her mad non-verbal bug-eyed props for it. Jack and Rousseau, with Ben in tow, follow the wrong trail, which only leads to Ben cracking some delicious one-liners to Jack. Kate follows the right blood trail and is attacked by Naomi. She calls her fellow boat people and covers for the fact that Locke tried to turn her into an Island shish kebob. Her people have a lock on the Island’s location and are evidently on their way.
Meanwhile, Hurley’s celebratory cannonball leaves him all wet and mopey when Desmond returns with news of Charlie’s death and the fact that the people on the freighter may be dangerous. Like any rational soul would, Hurley chucks the radio into the ocean, forcing them to deliver Charlie’s dying message in person.
When everybody meets up at the cockpit, Hurley tells Claire the sad news, everyone pouts, Jack attacks Locke, the camp divides into two groups, and most importantly, absolutely nobody kisses. That’s right, two couples are reunited, everyone is buzzing about the impending rescue, but no one kisses anybody. We’ve had random kisses and hookups in the jungle, sweaty cage romps and developing romances, but when people think they’re getting saved, they just….hug?
In our flashbacks- no, flashforwards- we see a frazzled Hurley on the run from the cops. Well, actually he’s on the run from a vision of Charlie standing by the Ho-Ho’s. He willingly goes back to Santa Rosa, where he’s visited by a creepy man claiming to be from Oceanic (buy that one and I’ve got some Nigerian uranium to sell you), who asks Hurley “Are they still alive?” Michael Abbadon, welcome to the Creepy Club! You’ll fit in quite well with Ethan and Ben.
Hurley is visited again by a vision of Charlie, who claims that “They need you.” Oh, the mystery runs deeper still! Hurley counts to five and Charlie disappears. Later on, a clean-cut, beardless Jack pays dear Hugo a visit. He saw Hurley’s Gone in 60 Seconds routine on TV and wants to make sure that Hurley isn’t losing it; wants to make sure that Hurley isn’t “going to tell.” Tell what, you ask? Well that’s another tale for another day.
1. Nobody earns First Line or Last Line points for the episode. For the Fantasy League, the first line is considered to be the TV reporter covering the high speed chase. The last line in the episode was spoken by the parachutist, who is a non-League character.
2. Jack only gets points once for appearing in Hurley’s flashforwards. Since the linear narrative of the flashforwards was not interrupted by any shifts in time, Jack’s appearances occur as a part of the linear narrative.
3. Jack yanking on the ropes is considered an injury. Both he and Ben lost points accordingly. Jack didn’t need to yank on the rope like that. He did it to cause discomfort to Ben, who had been dispensing a couple of good zingers in his direction up to that point.
4. Jack and Locke only lose points once for their altercation at the cockpit. There was a commercial break cutting it in half and when we returned from commercial it appears that Jack takes another swing at Locke. This is all considered one injury sequence despite the slight pause while Jack pointed the gun at Locke and pulled the trigger.
5. Hurley loses points for being injured by the cops. When he tried to run away from them at the beginning of the episode, they slammed him up against a wall. Enough force was used to justify a points deduction.
6. Both of Hurley’s visions of Charlie are being considered Island visions. While he’s not actually on the Island, DarkUFO and I feel as though there is something more to these visions than just Hurley going off the deep end. Both visions are considered separate visions so Hurley gets points for each one. If we learn later on that these visions are just Hurley’s mind at work, these points will be taken away.
7. The scenes involving Jacob’s shack were very interesting to score. We believe that Hurley actually saw Jacob’s shack, so Hurley does not get Island vision points for the incident. The appearance of Christian Shephard in Jacob’s chair was equally confusing. Until we know more about what happened there, both Christian and Jacob are getting points for appearing. Hurley is getting points for discovering a new person in Christian/Jacob and also for encountering Jacob. If and when information comes out from Damon and Carlton as to what happened here and who was involved, we will come back and adjust the points accordingly. We did not award Jacob/Christian points for discovering a new person for Hurley’s presence, since Hurley found him/them and he/they did not seem to notice Hurley outside the window (I am a firm believer that we saw Locke’s eye).
8. Hurley loses points for getting slapped by Charlie. Whether he was just a dream or an actual Island vision, Charlie slapped Hurley and that was real. Besides, the rules state that anything happening during the runtime of the episode counts for points.
9. No flashback points are awarded for the semi-flashback clip of Charlie and Desmond in the Looking Glass. I don’t think this was meant as an actual flashback. It was more of a rehash clip directed at the audience, not a memory for our Losties. Hurley was talking about Charlie’s sacrifice when the clips appeared on screen but Hurley was not there to see it happen.
10. Penny gets appearance points. During the aforementioned rehash of footage from the Looking Glass, Penny is just barely visible in the lower left corner of the screen when we’re looking at the porthole from Charlie’s POV. She is on the comm screen. Her appearance is about as quick as Jacob’s in "The Man Behind the Curtain," but you can spot her in a screencap if you catch it just right.
11. Hurley does not lose points for crashing his car at the beginning of the episode. Yes, it was a violent experience, but he wasn’t hurt by it.
12. Hurley’s encounter with Michael Abbadon does not count for new person points. Abbadon sought Hurley out.
13. Jack and Kate’s discovery of the parachutist does count for new person points. While the Losties already know that the freighter people exist, they were not told that one would be dropping in like that.
Group 1-
JACK (+65): Attendance (+5); First On Screen (+15); Appears in Hurley's Flashforwards (+25); Injures Ben- Sharp yank on the ropes tied to his wrists (-5); Injures Locke- Attacks him at the cockpit (-5); Discovers a New Person- Man parachuting out of helicopter (+20); Last Person on Screen (+10)
KATE (+15): Attendance (+5); Gets Hurt- Attacked by Naomi (-10); Discovers a New Person- Man parachuting out of helicopter (+20)
SAWYER (+5): Attendance (+5)
LOCKE (-5): Attendance (+5); Gets Hurt- Attacked by Jack (-10)
BEN (-15): Attendance (+5); Gets Hurt- Punched by Danielle (-10); Gets Hurt- Jack yanks on the rope attached to his wrists (-10)
Group 2-
HURLEY (+200): Attendance (+5); Episode Centricity (+25); Flashforward (+20); Gets Hurt- Slammed against wall by the cops (-10); Has an Island Vision- Charlie swimming into the interrogation room glass (+30); Discovers a New Place- Jacob's shack (+20); Hears the Whispers (+30); Discovers a New Person- Jacob/Christian/??? (+20); Encounter Jacob (+40); Has an Island Vision- Charlie Appears at the Mental Institution (+30); Gets Hurt- Charlie slaps him (-10)
DESMOND (+5): Attendance (+5)
JULIET (+5): Attendance (+5)
SAYID (+5): Attendance (+5)
MICHAEL (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
Group 3-
CLAIRE (+5): Attendance (+5)
JACOB (+5): Attendance (+5)
JIN (+5): Attendance (+5)
SUN (+5): Attendance (+5)
ROUSSEAU (0): Attendance (+5); Injures Ben- punches him (-5)
Group 4-
ALEX (+5): Attendance (+5)
BERNARD (+5): Attendance (+5)
KARL (+5): Attendance (+5)
ROSE (+5): Attendance (+5)
WALT (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
Group 5-
AARON (+5): Attendance (+5)
PENNY (+5): Attendance (+5)
CINDY (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
MARVIN CANDLE (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
RICHARD (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
Group 6-
ETHAN (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
LIBBY (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
MS. HAWKING (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
RACHEL (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
WIDMORE (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
Group 7-
CHRISTIAN (+5): Attendance (+5)
KELVIN (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
KEVIN CALISS (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
MR. PAIK (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
NADIA (-5): Absent from Episode (-5)
As mentioned in the video, we have a 17-way tie for first place after Week 1. This means that there were 17 Fantasy Geniuses of the Week. Congratulations are in order for the following contestants:
-Clau
-EducatedHorse73
-Ellie
-EllieAtWHL
-Gawain
-Hearts And Minds
-Heather Anderson
-Kath
-Log&blogs
-Loquo
-Mfll
-Paul Reynolds
-Ryan
-Shamrocker
-Tenenbaum
-The Vindicator
-Tsara90
All of these contestants managed to score the highest possible total for the episode, 280 points. What a start to your Fantasy season!
To get the full score, each of them had to have Jack (+65), Hurley (+200) and Christian (+5). In Group 3, Claire, Jacob, Jin and Sun all got the same amount of points (+5), making them interchangeable. The same applies for Group 4, where Alex, Bernard, Karl or Rose would have sufficed for 5 points, while you needed either Aaron or Penny for Group 5 for their 5 points. Group 6 are our first Lost Fantasy Losers, with none of them showing up in the episode.
Table Toppers

Celebrity Table

Character Groups

Scoring Chart

To see the full table and your position click the link below.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pXy_MMpweXkAkMEOuxvVeBg
I have no predictions for the next episode. It is titled "Confirmed Dead." Not a very comforting thing to hear. It sounds like it might pertain to the supposed discovery of Oceanic Flight 815 at the bottom of the ocean with all its passengers aboard. Maybe there will also be some kind of tie-in with the Find 815 ARG that had been running all during January.
All I know for sure is that it's another episode of Lost, which is great!
Come back next Monday and find out how your team is doing with a second episode in the books. With the big boost Hurley gave his Fantasy owners, a lot of us have some serious catching up to do.


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38 Comments:
Wow! I got 260!! :P
Ok, it will not be in my advantage at all, because he's my character but I think Locke is supposed to lose more points. Just to be fair.
I though Locke would have -35, instead of -5. First, I counted all the punches as a unique deduction, but I tough that Jack pushing the gun's trigger was another -10. It's okay if you didn't count it.
But, here's the important deduction for Locke that I think you missed. Actually, Naomi died because of Locke, so shouldn't he lose 20 points?
BTW, Good job for the first real Fantasy update! It gives a whole new experience when watching the episodes because you actually care for the members of your team. It brings more depth, which can't be bad.
I'm at an even 0 :(
I really dislike the idea of causing harm leading to a deduction. it's lost, people are going to messed up on a regular basis.
Dark/G-man/anyone with authority:
Why is Sawyer listed as having -35 when all he has on the board is +5 for attendence and nothing else? I don't get it.
Also: I didn't know that archive footage was going to count a la Penny but I won't complain since she's on my team : )
I have Sawyer too and he's listed at -35. How did that happen?
Aww man. I broke 2 of my browsers trying to load that enourmous sheet (which is listed all on 1 sheet, the other two are blank)... turns out I'm not even listed!
*cries*
G-man,
Great job on the LFL. It's finally here!
One more question to add to the above questions. Why didn't Christian get points for encountering Jacob?
Yippee!! 10 points! Let the games begin! Thanks for doing this G-Man.
Whoops! I corrected the Sawyer goof. Sorry folks, I copied the Detailed Character Points section from a previous update so I wouldn't have to recode anything and I just missed Sawyer's score when filling in the Week 1 info. Thanks for alerting me to this though!
As far as Locke losing points, a beatdown session from a single character only counts as one injury. Now, had Jack knocked Locke over, let him get back up and then slugged him again, it would have been another injury. The gun doesn't count because it didn't go off, thus it didn't do any harm to Locke. Yes, Jack meant to kill him, but we're not in the business of deducting points every time someone wants to hurt someone else; only when they actually do it.
Also, Naomi's death relates to the injury that Locke gave her back in Season 3. Since she died in Season 4, her death would be retroactively deducted from Locke's Season 3 score, had there been a Season 3 Fantasy League.
Glad you like the update so far. Hopefully the videos will stay at least this short from now on.
One more question to add to the above questions. Why didn't Christian get points for encountering Jacob?
Okay, that's the big question that I was dreading. Because I believe that the eye we saw fly up in the window was Locke's, we don't know if that was really Christian or Jacob in the form of Christian.
If we find out later down the road that both were in the shack, then Christian will get points retroactively for encountering Jacob. If it is just Jacob pretending to be Christian, then Christian will be stripped of any points for the episode because it's not really Christian. The jury is still kind of out on this issue, so for now we're just playing it safe and erring on the side of caution.
Jake3988, I just checked our database and you are currently tied for 1338th place with +10 points total.
I'm in 114th place! Picking Hurley is paying off so far!
Yeah! 270 points. Hurley and Jack gave me a lot of points.
This is fun, fun, fun! Thanks guys!
Yay, the real thing has started!
Thanks to Hurley and Jack I'm 97th!
And next week some more points meeting more new people. I just hope Jack calms down his death wish :)
Thanks a lot G-man and Darkufo. This is really going to be fun!
joint first!!! yesss!!
Only *just* missed the top 17 by five points! Maybe next time.
BTW: I'm on the scoring list twice. Once as pluizig with eldonjeronimo as my email and once as eldonjeronimo with pluizig as my email. It's the same set of characters, so I'd like it if you would delete the latter.
Great to have the league back! Thanks G-man and Dark.
One thing. If Hurley recieves discovery points for discovering Jacob's Shack, shouldn't all island character's get discovery points for discovering the cockpit? (minus Jack and Kate)
Both Jacob's Shack and the Cockpit were discovered previously, so both fall into the same.
i got 25 points :/ :P
GMan,
I've seen the episode twice, but I'm sure you've seen it more than I have, but it seemed to me that Christian was in the rocking chair in the middle of the room, and Jacob (or whoever is the owner of the eye) was sitting right inside the window as if they and Christian were facing one another. I never got the impression that only one person was in the shack.
Sorry...forgot to include my point!
So it seemed like Christian ought to get Jacob encounter points. Again, I will defer to you as I'm sure you've seen the scene more than I have, but both times I saw it I got that impression.
One thing. If Hurley recieves discovery points for discovering Jacob's Shack, shouldn't all island character's get discovery points for discovering the cockpit? (minus Jack and Kate)
Both Jacob's Shack and the Cockpit were discovered previously, so both fall into the same.
No one gets points for the discovering the cockpit because when Jack, Kate and Charlie came back from it in the Pilot episode, Jack announced that they had found it and brought back the tranceiver. At that point, everyone in the Lostie camp knew that the cockpit was out there and were aware of it. This makes everyone inellgible for discovery points. The Losties knew it was out there, and the non-Losties were led there by the Losties.
Jacob's shack is still up for discovery points grabs because Locke didn't tell anyone about it yet (that we know of).
I've seen the episode twice, but I'm sure you've seen it more than I have, but it seemed to me that Christian was in the rocking chair in the middle of the room, and Jacob (or whoever is the owner of the eye) was sitting right inside the window as if they and Christian were facing one another. I never got the impression that only one person was in the shack.
This whole scene is still very much up in the air. Depending on what kind of explanation we get from the producers or in future episodes, Christian could get points for encountering Jacob. For now, I still think the second person was Locke and we're treating Christian/Jacob as one person for now. New information will help us refine this mess.
First of all, great gob G-Man getting this all together so fast after the episode, excellent stuff.
Secondly, just to reiterate what G-Man said. Nothing it set in stone here. If we later find out something in a future episodes that proves/disproves points already awarded we will go back and adjust the points to reflect any new information.
Eg If we find out that it was in fact the REAL Christian in the cabin and not a vision/manifestation then we will add/remove points where applicable.
Thanks for the great recap g-man. Also thanks for the great news. I'm in 525th place with 75 points, which is a big improvement from the trial Fantasy league. Can't wait to see how I do next week!
5 characters in the episode and all i get is 0 points. how does that work? lol. hope christain will get his jacob points eventually. but anyways great job guys.
85 points! That's awesome - for me, at least. I'm doing so badly in the Prediction League.
Also ranked 114. I picked Hurley and ALL WOMEN. I think this is the season of the women on LOST. I've got Kate, Sun, Alex and Penny down for big scores.
I feel very confident.
I dont wana make a big deal, becouse, as said Dark, nothing its grabbed on stone here. But I wana tell you my point of view: I am with you about that we need more information, but until that happends, i think that we take things as they seem to be. So, a extrange eye in Jacob's house its Jacob's eye. Christian in a chair, its christian. If we get different information in the future, then we change what we believed it was a fact. I think thats more logical that puting points for suspicions.
I was hoping for a fresh start after the Trial Fantasy League.My season 4 hopes,just went up in smoke. :)
G-man,
just realized, that was my fresh start; What a free-fall.
off to an auspicious start with a whopping 20 points!
But I think that Naomi's death should count against Locke since she died in S4 because of Locke, even though he inflicted the injury in S3. Yeah, the points would have been corrected for the S3 league, but then the death points should be awarded for the S4 death.
just mho.
But all in all, GREAT JOB, G-man!
wow -1009 omg lol what a great start...
oh well sill love this..
thanks G-MAN and DARK
your the greatest
wow, can't believe im top of the list! Hope it stays that way! Cheers G man!
I scored 280 points, but I wasn't on the list! Are you sure you are checking correctly? My fantasy league submission was this:
Jack,Hurley,Sun,Walt,Penny,Ethan,
Christian
Can you double check this?
Thanks!
JTM: See below.
Jack: 65 Points
Hurley: 200 Points
Sun: 5 Points
Walt: -5 Points
Penny: 5 Points
Ethan: -5 Points
Christian: 5 Points
That equals 270 points.
Boy do I feel dumb! Thank you for clarifying.
JTM
Hey , no problem. There are no dumb question ;)