Here are Yesterdays Poll results and as you can see we had 3 pretty one-sided affairs with one semi-close one.
Because You Left 894 75% (76.2%)
Tabula Rasa 298 25% (23.8%)
Two for the Road 1086 90% (88.9%)
The Glass Ballerina 118 10% (11.1%)
One of Us 813 67% (66.6%)
Something Nice Back Home 399 33% (33.4%)
The Incident (Part 1 & 2) 1003 83% (92.9%)
The Shape of Things to Come 206 17% (7.1%)
We've updated the bracket software and the current results are now posted here. Only 10 people out of 1168 have got all 24 predictions correct so far. How did you do? and how do you think you'll do today?
Today sees four more match-ups, who will your vote for and why. Let us know in the comments and follow it in our Official Discussion Thread.
A BIG thank you to Dharmageddon for the images again today, despite his PC blowing up and still managed to get the new images created.
A Tale of Two Cities
Now prisoners of "The Others," head games begin for Jack, Kate, and Sawyer.
Not in PortlandSawyer and Kate struggle to escape the island while Jack sabotages Ben's surgery, and Juliet's plan to make a deal with Jack to kill Ben on the operating table is exposed.
JugheadDesmond returns to Oxford to fulfill Faraday's request to find his mother. Back on the island, the survivors discover that they've run into The Others 50 years in the past, but Richard Alpert is the same age.
The ConstantDuring the helicopter ride to the ship, Desmond's consciousness begins jumping back and forth between present day 2004 and 1996. He is forced to find Daniel Faraday in 1996 in order to get answers and stop the jumps.
The Greater Good
After burying one of their own, tempers flare as the castaways' suspicions of each other grow -- and an unlikely survivor vows revenge. Meanwhile, Claire and Charlie struggle to calm her newborn.
The Variable
Faraday returns to the island and tells Jack that his mother, Eloise Hawking, lied to them--they don't belong on the island. He then initiates a dangerous plan to get them back home.
Dave
Hurley begins to think the island is affecting him in a very strange way, so Libby attempts to offer him support. Hurley also recalls his past in a mental hospital with his friend Dave. Meanwhile, the prisoner calling himself Henry Gale offers new information about the Hatch, which severely shakes Locke's sense of purpose.
The BrigLocke tells Sawyer that he needs to come with him to kill Ben. But the man Locke wants him to kill is actually his father--who also happens to be a figure from Sawyer's past.
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-A Tale of Two Cities
-The Constant
-The Variable
-The Brig
Same here
A Tale of Two Cities
The Constant
The Variable
The Brig
Hm I really hope I will get 4/4. :)
-Not In Portland
-The Constant
-The Variable
-The Brig
The last 3 seem to be doing easy job, but the first match is going to be quite tough. But come on, Not in Portland was the "first" real good episode in Season 3. Remember how everybody was saying Lost found its way again after the 3-month hiatus. I admit it, "Every Man For Himself" was good too, but Not In Portland beats the Premiere by far. :)
- Not in Portland
- The Constant
- The Variable
- The Brig
The only memorable scene from two cities is the very first one, I admit it was pretty good, but Not in Portland still has it beat.
My picks:
Not in Portland
The Constant
The Variable (even though I hated that episode...)
The Brig
I liked Not in Portland better than Tale of Two Cities, imo although it still had to take care of the cliffhanger of Ben's surgery, it gave us our first insight into Juliet, and came with a great flashback.
(no pics of Juliet/her flashback in the icon?)
We knew very little about her at this point, and her flashback was quite revealing and intriguing, we got to see Ethan off the island, as well as introducing Richard Alpert for the first time.
Not in Portland
The Constant (of course)
The Greater Good
The Brig (one of my fav)
Not in Portland
The Constant (of course)
The Greater Good
The Brig (one of my fav)
- A tale of two cities
- The Constant
- The Variable
- The Brig
I liked not in portland better but I though people would choose ATOTC...
A Tale of Two Cities [Come on, beat Not in Portland]
The Constant
The Variable
The Brig
Wow, Not in Portland is getting more love than I anticipated. I have to say, not my favourite episode. Maybe 'Juliet is dead' backlash? However, the 'hit by a bus' thing is still truly chilling...
Still, I expected A tale of two cities to clean up here.
Argh, why is it that every time we have a tough poll, I end up on the losing team.
- A Tale of Two Cities
- The Constant
- The Variable
- The Brig.
The premiere was written by JJ and Damon.
We finally learned Ben's name!
It has a fantastic opening scene. Introduction of one of our favorite females on the show.
Three of our castaways waking up in different parts of a brand new Dharma station. Kate's dinner with Ben, confirmation on where the polar bears came from, revelation on where sharks came from and more good scenes involving Ben, Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Karl, Christian Shephard (and a hint on his role in season 4 when Jack tries the intercom and Christians voice comes on).
To me, it certainly beats "Not in Portland".
come on ToTC...it had fish biscuits!
C'mon! ToTC gave us a great opening scene. Why is Not in Portland winning?
- A tale of two cities
- The Constant
- The Variable
- The Brig
Not in Portland
The Constant
The Variable
The Brig
okay ... competition's over for me :(
I'm surprised A Tale of Two Cities is losing. I know it was considered a weak opener but you can't deny the first scene was brilliant.
TELL ME WHERE MY FRIENDS ARE!!
I voted TOTC based off what I thought people would choose. Just me or does it seem like people are voting a lot more intelligently this year?
The only really good thing in the premiere was the opening scene. The rest was just average, where as as a whole I think Not In Portland was a stronger episode.
If it holds, and Not in Portland wins, then we're down to only 3 perfect brackets, and one of them is a major screw up, having ATOTC going to the semis. WOW.
But it's funny to see almost everybody has The Constant vs The Variable in the 3rd round. How cool is that?
Yeah the top five brackets all have glaringly bad picks. One even has TTLG losing in the second or third round. the others especially david, adam and robert will all be there in the end.
I don't know how everybody made their picks. When I voted today, I actually voted for Two Cities, while I had picked Not in Portland in the bracket. I think that's because I just insticually thought Two Cities would win, but I had taken my time in the bracket and determined that it wouldn't. Not saying my bracket is perfect, because I missed 2, but I think there are a lot of episodes that have more hype than they deserve, and if you had taken a moment to think about it, consider the feature character, and other factors, you may have done better with your picks. Again I'm not the pick master, but I think that explains some of those who are expressing suprise over the current state of ATOTC vs. NIP
I'm continuously amuzed that the polls never have the same amount of votes. Who comes in and doesn't vote for all 4? I mean really?
Does anyone else feel like this year it was harder to make predictions for the bracket than past years? I only missed one or two last year in the first round. Now I'm losing one ever other day! Come on TOTC!
Dmalato2,
I agree completely. The voting is quite different than last year. I also
am missing one every other day. However, I can't believe I didn't pick NIP. That was a total brain fart. but I still don't get DID losing. Last year I finished in the top 15. The last 3 rounds are the most important as far as points go.
It is harder. There were a lot of very very good episodes this year. How do you rate The Incident. Obviously a ground breaking episode but would it win over classics like the Pilot or Through the Looking Glass. Plut Lafleur, Jughead, Dead is Dead, The Variable, and several others were really solid and revealing episodes. I really think it's hard because we doubled the amount of top tier entries.
- Not In Portland
- The Constant
- The Variable
- The Brig (if there ever was a match that should end 100-0, this is it!)
Looks like I could be going for my second 4/4, if Not In Portland holds up.
I was a little reluctant to call the the Two Cites vs. Portland match when only 800 votes had been cast, but with over 1100, I think this match is over. That looks like it's going to shake the top up a lot. If you had 2 losses, you're about to jump into the top 50 if you get that one right. Maybe close to the top 30.
Unfortunately, I had Deus Ex Machina beating Live Together, Die Alone and making it to the final eight! That was my critical error.
Vid said... Hm I really hope I will get 4/4. :) -Not In Portland -The Constant -The Variable -The Brig
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Ditto here.
Tale of Two Cities was awful. Not in Portland was the start of the run of the best stretch of episodes in lost history bar none. (Minus Expose, of course)
So this contest is really about getting all of the final 7 matches correct. At least 6 of them. And then only missing 2 or 3 the entire rest of the tournament. That's a tall order. If you missed one already that guarantees you losses in the next 3 rounds, you more or less can't miss anything the rest of the way.
Not in Portland is literally in my top 10 episodes. Watch it again. Great flashbacks, we meet Richard Alpert, Juliet's husband gets run over by a bus, and we start to find out about the pregnancies and the island itself. On island action is fantastic with Alex helping Sawyer and Kate while Jack does surgery on Ben. The episode shows us Room 23 and ends with a bang as Juliet emerges from the woods to put Danny Pickett to rest in one of the best deaths ever on LOST. The episode closes with some good things as Kate tells Jack the counting to 5 story over the walkie and then Juliet tells Jack that Ben would let her go if she helped Sawyer and Kate. This episode is so entertaining and completely opens up the character of Juliet.
People voted AGAINST The Constant? Unheard of! lol
Yeah, the Constant may not win, but to put it out in round 1 is insane!!!
I was actually very suprised to find 3 votes for "Dave" in this round, and that was from people still in the top 100. Really? Dave? My bracket isn't perfect, but "Dave"? Come on. And I saw 1,,, just 1, for "The Greater Good". It was a good episode, but it's not beating "The Variable" in the first round. It's just not. Likewise, "Jughead" was a fantastic episode. But it's not beating "The Constant" in round 1. Sadley "Jughead" is a much better episode than a round 1 out, but again, it's not beating "The Constant"
This may not be the place to post this, but I had an idea for a format for next years tournament. Since we'll have like 120 episodes, I think it would be great to have a few weeks where we place random groups of 10 together. So 12 groups of 10 at a time. Nothing is eliminated the first week, but then we re-randomize them, and do the same thing with 12 different groups of 10 the following week. Then the top 64 in average percentage get to participate in the final 64 episode bracket.
Yeah, I think it has to do with the plethora of really good episodes this year that are hard to place in comparison to previous seasons. Last year, it seems like you knew which season 4 episodes were popular and which weren't. It was more cut and dry. This year, not so much.
It's going to be interesting to see how far LeFleur can go. It's in a pretty weak bracket, and it seems like a lot of people liked that one a lot.
@Locke4God:
I think your idea is good for getting all 120 eps in but thats also double the effort for Dark and everyone that helps him. Plus they have elimination rounds which are almost the same (gets rid of lesser episodes faster instead of seeing them last a round or two)
@ UFOLite - You're probably right. But it'd be fun. I just like when there's a little mixup in the format. I mean, the elimination rounds are fine, but they're really just the real 1st round, where the major episodes all have a bye. There were actually a few pitted together that I wished both were in the main bracket. Plus you would be able to seed them, highest average to lowest. Hummmmmmmmm. No but you make a good point. Dark's a busy man.
Damn, what a shake up at the top of the order. About 65% of the top 215 brackets just lost the Two Cities vs. Portland match. That's a bunch. There aren't many matches that you'll see the vast majority of the top brackets loose.
I'm really surprised that 'Not in Portland' is beating ATOTC - there goes my perfect first round/bracket :(
No question about NIP being a good episode, but I never saw that coming.
I even picked ATOTC over 'The Constant' in round two...that was a mistake of course, but it shows how much faith I had in the S3 opener ^^
I think The Variable and The Constant going head to head will be interesting.
I think Constant is gonna win by a decent margin.
The next round is going to be very interesting because with so many people missing episodes in the first round, they won't have their default episode to pick in round 2 (and in some cases, round 3). So, the percentages between the predictions, and the actual polls will be often vastly different.
For "Not in Portland," I should have gone with what the episode I actually liked more, versus the one I thought people would vote for (Tale of Two Cities). Good to see though that NIP won, as people are voting smarter this year, like others have noted.
would you consider NIP beating ATOTC an upset because ATOTC is a season opener?
@ UFOLite - Yeah I think you have to consider it a bit of an upset. A - because more people than not picked ATOTC in their bracket, and B - Because it is a Premier. The Premiers and Finale's have a big advantage because that's usually where the big stuff happens, they are usually multihour events, and they just stand out in general. That being said, and having picked NIP, I personally thought there were several factors that would lead it to victory. I just thought it was one of those trap matches, where people would pick it in the bracket because it was a premier without bothering think about how good Not in Portland really was.
@UFOLite: Yeah, I think that is definitely why a lot of people went the wrong way with ATOTC vs NIP. Last year, every premiere and finale except MOSMOF (which got beat in the top 32 by TMBTC) made it to the "Sweet Sixteen." So, it was a safe call to presume that ATOTC would do so as well, which last year only got beat out in the Sweet 16 by "The Constant", which went on to win the whole game. This year, people threw away those preconceptions and seemed to really vote on quality a bit more, and NIP is indeed the better episode.
So people don't have to do the research that I just did, here is last year's "Sweet Sixteen":
Pilot (W) vs Flashes Before Your Eyes (L)
Walkabout (W) vs The Beginning of the End (L)
There's No Place Like Home (W) vs The Shape of Things to Come (L)
Through the Looking Glass (W) vs The Brig (L)
The Constant (W) vs A Tale of Two Cities (L)
Exodus (W) vs The Hunting Party (L)
Live Together Die Alone (W) vs Cabin Fever (L)
The Man Behind the Curtain (W) vs Confirmed Dead (L)
My picks were all sorta 'defining moments' of the story for me:
A Tale of Two Cities validated the Others and provided some much needed answers
The Constant proved that 'Des' was definitely more than just a diversion...
The Variable validated our 'freighter party' and 'former leadership' questions
Dave confirmed my most nagging questions about Hurley (seemed he shoulda 'missed' the first flight) and at the same time those naggin' numbers seemed to have brought him. It also 'wrapped up' Libby's story for me. That with Desmond's source of a 'boat' for the major boat race.
@DeterminedObserver- Just playing a little devil's advocate, but it seems to me that there are few 'character moments' in the series as significant as Sawyer killing the Real Sawyer. That was a gut-wretching scene man, and it really allows Sawyer to move forward with his life (or really, to start living it - not to be overly dramatic).
dmalato2 said...
Does anyone else feel like this year it was harder to make predictions for the bracket than past years? I only missed one or two last year in the first round. Now I'm losing one ever other day! Come on TOTC!
Yep, same situation. This year, I have missed quite a few, but they are all toss-ups or upsets ("Left Behind"/"...in Translation", "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"/"Do No Harm", "Enter 77"/"Catch-22", "Flashes Before Your Eyes"/"Dead is Dead" and now "Not in Portland"/"A Tale of Two Cities". 308 vs. 512 was baffling to me because the latter is thirteen ranks ahead of the former in the Episode League Table and is the highest rated episode of the most recent season.
dmalato2 said...
Yeah, I think it has to do with the plethora of really good episodes this year that are hard to place in comparison to previous seasons. Last year, it seems like you knew which season 4 episodes were popular and which weren't. It was more cut and dry. This year, not so much. It's going to be interesting to see how far LeFleur can go. It's in a pretty weak bracket, and it seems like a lot of people liked that one a lot.
Again, I agree with you. I, for example, had a lot of problems with "Dead is Dead", "This Place is Death" and "The Variable" and I know that I am one of a substantial minority. We did not have those last year. It seems that this year, everyone liked "Follow the Leader" and "The Incident", but the rest are debatable.
I think that any battle involving a combination of "LaFleur", "Dead is Dead" and "Follow the Leader" would be quite interesting.
Here goes my second miss!
Who would have thought that not in Portland would be preffered? Except the scene where Pickett aims at Sawyer/Gets yelled at by Kate and shot by Juliet I do not remember a thing from it =]